[fpc-pascal] Where can I download the fpc 3.0.0 seed compiler for Linux on i386 x64?

[Bo Berglund]

I want to build FPC/Lazarus (3.0.4/1.8.4) from sources on a new Linux
(Ubuntu 18.04 TLS MATE) using an i386 family CPU.
AFAIK I need to have the fpc seed compiler in order to do this.

But this is a hen and egg problem, how can I download the compiler
needed to build 3.0.4 on this Linux machine?

I have had the same problem for RaspberryPi computers in the past but
then I managed to get hold of a seed compiler and now there is no
problems installing fpc/lazarus on RPi boxes.
Different story with Linux on a PC (with Intel CPU)...

Grateful for any links to a working seed compiler.

[Sven Barth via fpc-pascal]

Post by Bo Berglund
I want to build FPC/Lazarus (3.0.4/1.8.4) from sources on a new Linux
(Ubuntu 18.04 TLS MATE) using an i386 family CPU.
AFAIK I need to have the fpc seed compiler in order to do this.
But this is a hen and egg problem, how can I download the compiler
needed to build 3.0.4 on this Linux machine?
I have had the same problem for RaspberryPi computers in the past but
then I managed to get hold of a seed compiler and now there is no
problems installing fpc/lazarus on RPi boxes.
Different story with Linux on a PC (with Intel CPU)...
Grateful for any links to a working seed compiler.

Why don't you simply use the distribution independent release of 3.0.4?
E.g. from here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/freepascal/files/Linux/3.0.4 (you're
looking for fpc-3.0.4.i386-linux.tar). You can install it in any location
you want and only need to setup PATH accordingly afterwards (I do the same
on my Linux systems for the releases).

Regards,
Sven

[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:08:40 +0200, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Post by Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Why don't you simply use the distribution independent release of 3.0.4?

But I was under the impression that I cannot build 3.0.4 from sources
except by using the 3.0.0 seed compiler...
Has this requirement changed?

In any case I don't have any Linux i386 computer before so I am on a
clean slate here. But I found the link to the tarball for 3.0.4 on the
download page
https://www.freepascal.org/down/i386/linux-netherlands.var
Then I tried this URL by editing the two instances of 3.0.4 in the URL
to 3.0.0 and tested it. Downloaded the old tarball just fine and I
found the ppc386 compiler!

So now I am almost ready to start, except I don't know the exact build
requirements I need to install in this desktop Ubuntu 18.04...
On RPi units I usually do:

sudo apt-get install -y libx11-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libcairo2-dev
gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libpangox-1.0-dev xorg-dev libgtk2.0-dev
libpango1.0-dev

Is this what I need also on Ubuntu (i386)?

[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:12:41 +0200, Bo Berglund

Post by Bo Berglund
sudo apt-get install -y libx11-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libcairo2-dev
gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libpangox-1.0-dev xorg-dev libgtk2.0-dev
libpango1.0-dev
Is this what I need also on Ubuntu (i386)?

I did do sudo apt install build-essential since it did not have
make...

Then I tried to build fpc 3.0.4 from sources freshly chacked out from
the svn repo.
make all FPC=~/dev/fpc/ppc386

But it stopped after 1m32s with this at the end of he screen:

/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.a when searching for -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so
when searching for -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.a
when searching for -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
when searching for -lc
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.a
when searching for -lc
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
fpmake.pp(47,1) Error: Error while linking
fpmake.pp(47,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted
Makefile:1658: recipe for target 'fpmake' failed
make[2]: *** [fpmake] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/bosse/dev/fpc/3.0.4/packages'
Makefile:2616: recipe for target 'packages_smart' failed
make[1]: *** [packages_smart] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/bosse/dev/fpc/3.0.4'
Makefile:2812: recipe for target 'build-stamp.i386-linux' failed
make: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2

Probably some dependencies are missing from my Ubuntu 18.04, but what?
Could it be the exact same items as on RaspberryPi???

[Jonas Maebe]

Post by Bo Berglund
Probably some dependencies are missing from my Ubuntu 18.04, but what?

You have to install the i386 version of the libc-dev package. See
https://superuser.com/questions/741380/how-to-install-i386-package-under-amd64-ubuntu-debian/742163#742163
for basic information on how to enable installing i386 packages on an
x86-64 install.


Jonas
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[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:41:41 +0200, Jonas Maebe

Post by Jonas Maebe
You have to install the i386 version of the libc-dev package. See
https://superuser.com/questions/741380/how-to-install-i386-package-under-amd64-ubuntu-debian/742163#742163
for basic information on how to enable installing i386 packages on an
x86-64 install.

Boom!
I was *not* intending to install a 32 bit compiler...
But that was what I was doing using that ppc386 compiler!
Now I have retrieved the 3.0.0 x86_64 compiler instead and used it as
the seed compiler and it worked all the way to the end!
No errors on compiling fpc 3.0.4 anymore!

Thank you for your input!

[Sven Barth via fpc-pascal]

Post by Bo Berglund
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:12:41 +0200, Bo Berglund

Post by Bo Berglund
sudo apt-get install -y libx11-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libcairo2-dev
gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libpangox-1.0-dev xorg-dev libgtk2.0-dev
libpango1.0-dev
Is this what I need also on Ubuntu (i386)?

I did do sudo apt install build-essential since it did not have
make...
Then I tried to build fpc 3.0.4 from sources freshly chacked out from
the svn repo.
make all FPC=~/dev/fpc/ppc386
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.a when searching for -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpthread
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so
when searching for -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.a
when searching for -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
when searching for -lc
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.a
when searching for -lc
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
fpmake.pp(47,1) Error: Error while linking
fpmake.pp(47,1) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted
Makefile:1658: recipe for target 'fpmake' failed
make[2]: *** [fpmake] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/bosse/dev/fpc/3.0.4/packages'
Makefile:2616: recipe for target 'packages_smart' failed
make[1]: *** [packages_smart] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/bosse/dev/fpc/3.0.4'
Makefile:2812: recipe for target 'build-stamp.i386-linux' failed
make: *** [build-stamp.i386-linux] Error 2
Probably some dependencies are missing from my Ubuntu 18.04, but what?
Could it be the exact same items as on RaspberryPi???

If I had to guess I'd say that you'd need the 32-bit development packages
(don't know how to install them however, I use Arch Linux, not Ubuntu). Or
use the x86_64-linux release and build a 64-bit compiler.

Regards,
Sven

[Sven Barth via fpc-pascal]

Post by Bo Berglund
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:08:40 +0200, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Post by Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Why don't you simply use the distribution independent release of 3.0.4?

But I was under the impression that I cannot build 3.0.4 from sources
except by using the 3.0.0 seed compiler...
Has this requirement changed?

The idea was to use the binary release instead of building from source.
Building a release from source is only really useful and needed if you have
custom changes to the sources (this includes using non default options) or
there is no binary release provided for your intended platform.

Regards,
Sven

[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:38:05 +0200, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Post by Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Post by Bo Berglund
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:08:40 +0200, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal

Post by Sven Barth via fpc-pascal
Why don't you simply use the distribution independent release of 3.0.4?

But I was under the impression that I cannot build 3.0.4 from sources
except by using the 3.0.0 seed compiler...
Has this requirement changed?

The idea was to use the binary release instead of building from source.
Building a release from source is only really useful and needed if you have
custom changes to the sources (this includes using non default options) or
there is no binary release provided for your intended platform.

After re-reading your post I did so using ubuntu's:
sudo apt install lazarus-ide

It gave me a working system with Lazarus 1.8.2 and fpc 3.0.4

But it does not work correctly when I try to install
OnlinePackageManager, then it stops with an error:

lazarus.pp(1,1) Fatal: Cannot find lazcontroldsgn used by Lazarus.

I need this OnLinePackageManager to correctly install Indy10, which my
project uses.
(Posted this problem on the Lazarus list)

[Bo Berglund]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:01:39 +0200, Bo Berglund

Post by Bo Berglund
Grateful for any links to a working seed compiler.

I found a tarball on this location:
ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/mirrors/fpc/dist/3.0.0/i386-linux/fpc-3.0.0.i386-linux.tar

It must contain somewhere inside the file I need, any ideas about the
name of the compiler I shall be looking for (and where it may reside)?

Is it ppc386 located in the tarball here:
\fpc-3.0.0.i386-linux.tar\fpc-3.0.0.i386-linux\binary.i386-linux.tar\base.i386-linux.tar.gz\base.i386-linux.tar\lib\fpc\3.0.0\

[Marcos Douglas B. Santos]

Post by Bo Berglund
I want to build FPC/Lazarus (3.0.4/1.8.4) from sources on a new Linux
(Ubuntu 18.04 TLS MATE) using an i386 family CPU.
AFAIK I need to have the fpc seed compiler in order to do this.
But this is a hen and egg problem, how can I download the compiler
needed to build 3.0.4 on this Linux machine?

The easiest way: fpcupdeluxe
https://github.com/newpascal/fpcupdeluxe/releases

regards,
Marcos Douglas
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